Re: [tied] Re: searching for common words for all today's languages

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 43326
Date: 2006-02-09

 
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Subject: Re: [tied] Re: searching for common words for all today's languages

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> "LUIGI CAVALLI-SFORZA: When we took all the (genetic) data
> from American natives, they clearly fell into three
> classes, and they correspond exactly to the linguistic
> families that have been postulated by Greenberg."

Cavalli-Sforza is not a linguist.  (Cavalli-Sforza has in
fact demonstrated rather startling linguistic ignorance.)

[snip more non sequitur]

Brian


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Patrick:
 
Here we have Brian's normal position on every question:
 
1) I am right about everything (through knowledge);
 
2) You (anyone but 'I') are wrong about everything (through ignorance);
 
3) I do not need to prove anything since 'you' are ignorant and 'I' am knowledgeable.
 
4) Accept my opinion without discussion!
 

FACT:
 
Cavalli-Sforza has never claimed to be a 'linguist'; nor has anyone, of whom I am aware, claimed that he is either. I am sure he does not want to be one!
 
Brian's 'put-down' of Cavalli-Sforza is intended
 
to discredit the FACT that
 
the groupings that Greenberg makes of Amerind languages 
 
correspond to
 
the groupings that Cavalli-Sforza has found genetically among Amerinds.
 
Does one need to be a 'linguist' to recognize the names on two lists fall into the same groupings?
 
Does one need to be a 'geneticist' to recognize the same thing?
 
No and no.
 
One needs only to approach this question with honesty and normal, non-ideological visual capabilities.
 
Whether Cavalli-Sforza or Greenberg (or both) is right or wrong, their independently arrived-at conclusions coincide; this lends some credibility mutually to the conclusions.
 
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