Re: [tied] Celtic duck

From: patrick cuadrado
Message: 43244
Date: 2006-02-04

Hello
i 've nothing etymologic term Anas = duck in Celtic or Protoceltic
Insula Anas = Duck Island, i think i'ts a mistake
 
* Anas = River name in Oretani tribe (Iberia)
* Anatia/Anation = Soul < Welsh Enaid/Eneit
* Anatio/Anatla = Breath
   IE Henh (Breathe) Breton Anal. Welsh Anadl. Manx Ennal. Old Irish Anal.
   Grec Uz-anan (To Expire)
   Sanskrit An/Aniti and Anila (Wind)
* Anate-mori = Personal name genitive = Anatemoros = with soul of sea
* Anatili = Ligurian tribal name
* And-a = Inferior/Under Welsh Anner/Dan
  Insula Andesia < Insula Ands < Insula Ans = The inferior Island ?
* Ande = Intensive prefix Welsh An. Old Irish An/Ind
   Insula Andusia < Insula Ands < Insula Ans = The great Island ?
 
but nothing with Ans = ducks !!!!!!!!
 
Insula Ans for me, means The extreme Island
In Celtic "boundary" = Anto/Antom, look at the bilingual Vercelli inscription :
Anto =Finnis in Latin
 
I E Antjo (End)
Germanic Andjaz/Ent (End).  Gotic Anda. Old Frisian Enda. Old Norse Endir. Old German Enti. Englishs Ante/End. German/Danish Ende. Deutsch Einde. Suedish Anda
Grec Anti (Againts)
Hittite Hanti (Againts) Sanskrit Antah (Boundary)
 
Anto-ialon = the glade end = place name in France
                        * Anteuil (Doubs) Antogilus
                        * Antheuil (Côte d’Or) Antolium 1175
                        * Antheuil (Oise) Antoilum 1214           
                        * Antuéjouls ( Cantal) Anatolium
and personal name
* Anto-broges = Celtic tribe = The people who lives in the extremity of the land
* Anto-pate = Personal name = ?
* Antros Insula = Place name in Aquitania
 
Patrick
 

tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> a écrit :
 

Linguistica, Jan 30th 2006
http://www.phil.muni.cz/linguistica/art/blazek/bla-005.pdf
Harald Bjorvad & Frederik Otto Lindemann:
Våre arveord. Etymologisk ordbok, Oslo 2000
reviewed by Václav Blaz^ek

...
Ad pp. 34-35 and "duck" - a possible Celtic correspondent could be
identified in the name 'Inis Ane' of one of the Scooish Islands from
the end of the 1st vent. AD, called 'Insula Anas' "Duck's Island" by
the Geographer from Ravewnna ca. 700 AD ..
[Hamp: Ravenna 'anas'. Études Celtiques 34, 55]
...

So Proto-Celtic might have had the PIE "duck" word after all. That
would increase the likelihood of the theory that the representation
of the soul by ducks in Celtic imagery was based on a pun (*anat-
"duck", *an- "breathe; soul").


Torsten







Pat
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