Re: [tied] Re: PIE suffix *-ro - 'similar-with'

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 42896
Date: 2006-01-12

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Subject: [tied] Re: PIE suffix *-ro - 'similar-with'


>
>
> > > > -i is originally a postposition which occurs also in the
> locative
> > > > *-i and dative (*-ey) of Nouns. Added to the above forms it
> > becomes
> > > > *-mi "in my V-ing"
> > > > *-si "in thy V-ing"
> > > > etc.
> > >
> > > ***
> > > Patrick:
> > >
> > > -*i is a 'relational', 'like'.
> >
> > No, that's English.
> >
> > ***
> > Patrick:
> >
> > I have no idea what you mean here. -*i related forms meaning -like
> are one
> > of the world's best distributed formants. It occurs everywhere.
>
> I was thinking of the locative suffix *-i. It occurs in the locative.

***
Patrick:

Well, I think we have to distinguish the rationale for formation of a form
with its expanded usage.

When we say 'Copenhagen circus', we (usually) understand a circus located at
Copenhagen: a locative. But in many languages, like English, we frequently
use a phrase like 'Copenhagen' is an attributive, in usage if not form, and
adjective; similar to but distinguishable from a construction like
'Kopenhagener' in German which draws in the inhabitants of Copenhagen.

I have no quarrel with NOUN + *I being _used_ as locative; and at some stage
later than its formation, actually being a locative; I just do not think it
should be originally regarded as a locative.

***



> > You are a very creative person, Patrick.
> >
> > ***
> > Patrick:
> >
> > Whether intended or not, I will take a positive view of that
> remark.
> >
>
> Be my guest ;-)

***
Patrick:

Oops! I guess that tells me.

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