Re: Question on Albanian sy

From: tolgs001
Message: 42271
Date: 2005-11-25

Marius wrote:

>Also nuie was the form used by my grandmother (I'm originary from
>Turda (Potaissa))..so you cannot tell me that this form doesn't exist...

Didn't you read what I had written? I mentioned the regions: Moldova,
Transylvania and Banat. As well as the phonetic fact that the "open" <e>
[ae] is the strongest as such in the latter two provinces.

And: if you are from Turda, why do you have to rely on the testimony
by yrou granma? Don't these phonetic peculiarities belong to your
own subdialect as well?

(The spelling <nuie> cannot reflect the pronunciation 100%, since
the Romanian standard spelling doesn't include any grapheme for
the [ae] vowel -- which is indeed typical of the Cluj-Turda as well,
but which is not extant in standard Romanian and in South-Eastern
subdialects of the language.) (BTW, in Transylvania, Romanians
also use the word <ie> [yae] meaning "yes", and which is pronounced
almost as is <yeah> in English.)

George

PS: There's no need to mention Potaissa/Patavissa, the ancient
Dacian-Roman place name. It wasn't as famos as, say, Lutetia,
Bonna, Vindobonna, Mediolanum etc., so very few people outside
Romania have heard/read of it. And Turda < Hungarian Torda
might reflect some Turkic tribal community, Torta, that was in-
cluded in the primeval Hungarian confederation that changed
places in 896, moving from Ukraine to Pannonia.