[tied] Re: Proto Vedic Continuity Theory of Bharatiya (Indian) Lang

From: mkelkar2003
Message: 41818
Date: 2005-11-06

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
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> --- mkelkar2003 <smykelkar@...> wrote:
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> > "The model presented in Figure 1 may not be
> > interepreted to mean that
> > the Russian language was introduced into Russia by a
> > group of Indians
> > who invaded or migrated north! The present authors
> > believe that there
> > is no way to scientifically test such a claim.
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> It
> > just means that
> > these languages share something in common through
> > proto-Vedic and the
> > larger Eurasiatic family (Kalyanaraman and Kelkar
> > 2005, p. 62)."
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> ****GK: Isn't it simpler and more correct to claim
> that Russian and "Indian" share something in common
> through PIE?

These kinds of questions start arising when one starts treating PIE as
a historically attested fact. The "mainstream" view is only one of
the possible options.

You don't need to explain why it is only
> the IE component of "proto-Vedic" which somehow
> wandered northward, leaving the others behind.****

You probably mean the E component not the IE component. To use the
standard IEL terminiology, in our model, only Vedic stays in the
Indian subcontinent. Anatolian "migrates" to the middle east,
Tocharian migrates to the east, Illryic/Dardic goes to north east and
north. I don't know how they will "migrate." But IE linguists don't
know that either.

M. kelkar

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> > The model we present in Fig 1 p. 63 is as
> > unfalsiable as the current
> > consensus tree. As always non-linguistic evidence
> > is the ultimate
> > adjudicator of the matter. All I can say is that
> > genetic evidence
> > points to a flow of humans from the Indian
> > subcontinent to the north
> > not the other way round.
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> *****GK: So "genetic evidence" as you understand it
> contradicts the verifiable "flow of humans" from the
> north into the Indian subcontinent in historical
> times?...*****


That it DEFINITELY does. One can look at gene markers through a
microscope.

M. Kelkar


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