Re: [tied] Re: Proto Vedic Continuity Theory of Bharatiya (Indian)

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 41781
Date: 2005-11-06

Since I feel some list-members might object to my remarks about Native
Americans, so I am including a reference from the web:

http://www.indiana.edu/~rcapub/v17n3/p18.html

I am sure many will disagree with these findings on principle.


Patrick


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Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Proto Vedic Continuity Theory of Bharatiya (Indian)
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mkelkar2003" <smykelkar@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
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> Subject: [tied] Re: Proto Vedic Continuity Theory of Bharatiya (Indian)
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel J. Milton" <dmilt1896@...>
> > wrote:
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> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "mkelkar2003" <smykelkar@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > All the Rig Vedic flora and fauna are indigenous to the Indian
> > > > subcontinent (Lal 2005).
> > > > M. kelkar
> > > >
> > > If you can state that so confidently, then you must have the
> > > answer to a much-debated question.
> > > What was soma?
> > > Dan Milton
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> > Soma does not refer to a particular variety of plant. It means nectar
> > or essence or the gist to be offered to the Gods. That Soma is a
> > particular plant with hallucinogenic property is a dubious assumption.
> >
> > M. kelkar
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> ***
> Patrick:
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> Frankly, I find the last remark absolutely incredible.
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> Whatever it was, só:ma was certainly something quite specific.
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> Whether it was from a 'magic mushroom' or 'fermented juice' of some fruit
> (wild pears are a good possibility).
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> If we look at Bharati culture, the only drug that seems to be in general
> disfavor is alcohol. And, of course, só:ma is no longer in evidence
> either.
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> I suspect the Indo-Aryan speakers were users of alcohol; and the
> population they came into were, like Native Americans, were genetically
> incapable of handling it.
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> Temperance among this population would have had great chances of
> succeeding.
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