[tied] Re: Proto Vedic Continuity Theory of Bharatiya (Indian) Lang

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

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> --- mkelkar2003 <smykelkar@...> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh
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> GK: There are so many well-attested instances
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> > > "invasions" (large, small, middling etc..) in
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> > > history that the national-autochtonist position
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> > Calling an authochtonist position nationalistic is
> > stereotyping the
> > opponent to avoid answering them.
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> ****GK: "national-autochtonism" is not "nationalism".
> It refers to the notion that a particular ethnos or
> nation considers itself "autochtonic". Capis
> differentiam?*****
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> Whether or not
> > his theory is
> > correct Alinei is no Italian nationalist. Indeed
> > autochtonism is the
> > by *default* hypothesis.
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> ****GK: There are no "default" hypotheses. Everything
> must be proven.*****
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> Invasions and migrations,
> > as the IEL now want
> > to call them must be proven. Occam's razor applies
> > here.
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> *****GK: How do you prove to me that my native
> language (Ukrainian) ultimately derives from an "out
> of India" migration? Apply Ockham's razor.*****

It does not. We make that clear in our paper.

"The model presented in Figure 1 may not be interepreted to mean that
the Russian lanuage was introduced into Russia by a group of Indians
who invaded or migrated north! The present authors believe that there
is no way to scientifically test such a claim. It just means that
these languages share something in common through proto-Vedic and the
larger Eurasiantic family (Kalyanaraman and Kelkar 2005, p. 62)."

The model we present in Fig 1 p. 63 is as unfalsiable as the current
consensus tree. As always non-linguistic evidence is the ultimate
adjudicator of the matter. All I can say is that genetic evidence
points to a flow of humans from the Indian subcontinent to the north
not the other way round.

M. kelkar

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