--- david_russell_watson <
liberty@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos"
> <stlatos@...> wrote:
> What have you against the mainstream theory that
> would have only
> post-alveolar or pre-palatal * and *[] at this
> stage, whose
> reflexes are only later retroflex, and that only in
> Indo-Aryan?
I don't think that works. If you're talking about
what I've seen then in Iranian t and d supposedly go
to ts and dz then s and z while and remain. This
is because if t> as in Sanskrit then >s the after
k, etc., would be affected too.
I think instead s>s. after k etc., t>, s>h, >s,
s.>, etc. The reason is that from k^ and from g^
remain when in the onset with another consonant (other
than r)
patuwant- dnu- tru- yad- arks.a-
pauwant- nu- ru- ya- arks.a-
puwant- nu- ru- ya- arks.a-
fuwant- nu- ru- ya- arxs.a-
fuwant- nu- sru- yaz- arxs.a-
fuwant- nu- sru- yaz- arxa-
fuwant- nu- sru- yaz- arxa-
fuwant- nu- sru- yaz- ara-
fuyant- nu- sru- yaz- ara-
cattle-breeding knee hear worship bear
Also, Khowar shares features with both Iranian and
Sanskrit. It has voiced > -aspirate, w > p after s,
and shows where Sans. has s. as Iranian. But it
also has retroflex stops where Sans. has them (from s.
spreading retro to touching dentals) such as ot.
"eight". The only explanation is that s > s. after r,
k, etc.; this spread in Khowar and Sans.; s. > in
Iranian and Khowar.
> > voiced aspirate deaspirates before s or z
>
> In inherited clusters a voiced aspirate could be
> followed only
> by *[zh] not *s. Are you referring only to new
> formations taking
> place just at this supposed stage and afterwards?
That's not according to my rules. I have bhantsyati
from *bhendhsye-, rks.as from xrghtos, etc.
> > r. > r.@ at end of syllable
> >
> > x > 0 between consonants
>
> What does 'x' represent here?
Sorry; I believe H1 = x^ H2 = x H3 = xW and though I
didn't want to discuss that now I just forgot to
remain with H-notation.
> > voiced stops to fricatives after fricative
>
> What about 'Ahura Mazda'? :^)
That's from man-da- from men-dhx^o-. However
*hizba: > hizva: in Av.
> > To Sanskrit:
> >
> > all dental > retro after s., z., or n.
>
> After 'n.'?
Yes. I don't know if you agree with all of these
derivations (not mine) but:
melno- golno- H2ner.-ns
melno- golno- ner.-ns
melno- golno- ner.ns
melno- golno- nr.ns
mel.no- gol.no- nr.ns
mel.n.o- gol.n.o- nr.n.s
mel.n.o- gol.n.o- nr.n.s.
men.l.o- gon.l.o- nr.n.s.
men.d.o- gon.d.o- nr.n.s.
man.d.ala- gan.da.- nrn
circle cheek (San) men acc. (Av)
From mel- (jut out) as Irish meall/mell "knob, globus"
from *melno-; gol- (swell).
ner.ns > nr.ns as all ar-stems due to analogy with
-ins for ai-stems, etc.
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