Re: [tied] Other IE language with /w/

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:

>
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:54:04 +0000, tgpedersen
> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >> The native language of the Surinam creoles (blacks) is
> >> Sranan Tongo, a creole based on English. It has /w/, and so
> >> does the Dutch spoken in Surinam. This has nothing to do
> >> with earlier Dutch pronunciation.
> >>
> >
> >Because ... ?
>
> Because the fat that my parents pronounce Dutch <b>, <w> and
> <v> as [B] says nothing about Dutch pronunciation in the
> fifties/sixties.
>

Hidden somewhere in that is, I guess, the premise that your parents
are Spanish-speakers and arrived in the Netherelands in the
fifties/sixties, and you conclude from that that the originally
English-speaking Surinamers brought their English phoneme inventory
with them into their newly-acquired Dutch. That is a convoluted way
of answering a question I didn't ask. Could you provide a reference
that would document your claim that no Dutch was spoken in Suriname
until recently?


Torsten