From: A.
Message: 41254
Date: 2005-10-11
>So add another piece of support for the traditional view and against
>
> The OHG is <Zîos tag>, from Zîu, who was equated with Mars.
> According to Fritz Tschirch, Geschichte der deutschen
> Sprache, on the Lower Rhine he was also called <Thingsus>,
> as protector of the Thing, and the modern form is a mixture
> of the two.
>
> Brian
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "A." <xthanex@...> wrote:
> >
> > there is something I have been wondering about:
> > Tuesday ='s Dingstag, Dinstag, and Dienstag .. which
> > superficially sounds like Things-day, and thus strengthens the
> > connection between
> > Tiw and the assembly known as the Thing.
> >
> > A common example of this view is:
> > "The German word Dienst holds one of the keys to associate him
> > with the court or the Thing. Dienst in Modern German means
> > service and is used to describe a court or better yet a court
> > official. While the modern Dutch name is Dingstag and this is a
> > direct link to the
> > old Germanic Thing because Ding in both Dutch and German means a
> > thing or better yet the Thing."
> >
> >
> > However, I read somewhere (I sadly cannot recall where) that
> > Dingstag, Dinstag, and Dienstag ALL stem from NOT from the Thing
> > but rather they develop as a derivation of Tiw or Tig or some
> > such.
> >
> > oh, here it is....
> > Grimm's Teutonic Mythology states:
> > http://www.northvegr.org/lore/grimmst/006_09.php
> > "In central Germany the form diestag, ticstag [[[Tie's day?]]]
> > seems to predominate (diestik in the Rhön), whence our dienstag
> > (less correctly dinstag, there is good reason for the ie); the
> > spelling dingstag [[[thing's day]]], as if from ding, thing,
> > judicium, is false; dinstag occurs in Gaupps magdeb. recht p.
> > 272."
> >
> > Could anyone clarify this and tell me what seems to be supported
> > by the experts?
> >
> > Any thoughts on whether Grimm was right or wrong on this one??