Etruscan and IE (was Re: [tied] Re: Names of a few Celtic Deities)

From: glen gordon
Message: 41083
Date: 2005-10-06

Patrick Ryan escreveu:
> Greenberg and Ruhlen favored the mass comparison
> approach, [...] I attempt to make valid comparisons
> among the reconstructed syllables and *CVCV roots
> of the Proto-Language with words in other
> recognized proto-languages like PIE or PAA or PU
> or PA, etc.

The basis of your comparison is your unproven
"Proto-Language" syllables, not facts. Ergo, your
conclusions are invalid.

A valid comparison is based on sturdy reconstructions
grounded on solid facts.


> "Days" would be an absolutely unprecedented manner
> of nomenclature for a divinity!

Based on what known fact?


> Glen states confidently that "tinas cliniiaras" =
> "sons of Tin" "are related to the Dioscouri".

I'm confident because this is commonly understood.


> I will say, it is a bit difficult to connect the
> DiĆ³skouroi, who were the tutelary deities of
> _sailors_, with 'time', 'sky', or 'sun', for the
> Greeks, among whom they originate.

Sailors needed 'pulumcHva' (stars) to
navigate. 'PulumcHva' also help us keep track of
the 'tinia' (days). So being that the 'Tinas
cliniiaras' (sons of Tin) which were known as
Castor and 'Pultuce' (Pollux) were understood to
be 'pulumcHva', these *'zal ruvar aisna' (two
divine brothers) are associated also with
the 'atHumi' (sky), naturally. Since Tin was
originally the supreme god _and_ sun in the Proto-
Etruscan pantheon, he was considered also the
'apa' (father) of the Dioskouroi by association. Or
perhaps, the Greeks borrowed this concept from the
Ras'na (Tyrrhenians).


= gLeN




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