Re: [tied] PIE word for "people"

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Mate Kapoviæ <mkapovic@...> wrote:

> On Ned, rujan 25, 2005 5:35 am, Patrick Ryan reèe:
>
> >> > For PIE, we would reconstruct *ro:m-, seen in Latin Ro:ma: and

Gypsy

> >> > rom, 'man'; Old Indian ra:ma-, 'name of people'
> >>
> >> Extremally doubtful, I would even say that it is a vulgar etymology.
> >
> > ***
> > Patrick:
> >
> > Learn how to spell then we will consider all claims of vulgarity,
> > including
> > whether you are displaying _extremally_(sic!) vulgar rudeness.
>
> Ever heard of typos? Why don't you learn Polish if you're so smart?

a) I strongly suspect that 'vulgar etymology' means no more than 'folk
etymology'.

b) I'm not sure I could explain the difference between 'extremally'
and 'extremely', beyond the fact that the first tends to be literal,
e.g. in 'extremally disconnected spaces' and the latter is generally
an intensifier.

> > What people do you know that calls its by a name bestowed upon them by
> > foreigners. Do you have any examples? Even a measly one example?
>
> Like, it's quite common... For instance, in my land people speak a

Slavic

> language but their name is probably Iranian? How 'bout that, Pat?

But did they adopt the name of a foreign group (cf. French _français_)
or merely accept a foreign ethnonym bestowed on them? The latter case
seems rare, unless the foreign language is itself adopted, e.g. Welsh.
'Siam' might be an example, though I'm doubtful of its etymology.
Why should the Khmers think of the Thais as dark?

> > Go back whence you came and where you did not learn English, and add
> > better
> > manners to your course of study.
>
> "Oh I used the word 'whence', I'm soooo clever"

'Go back whence you came' is a stock phrase in English.

Richard.