Re: [tied] Re: IE thematic presents and the origin of their themati

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 40182
Date: 2005-09-20

----- Original Message -----
From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:31 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: IE thematic presents and the origin of their thematic
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> > tgpedersen wrote:
> >
> > > You can't be certain that *bHo:r- isn't "stealer at this particular
> > > occasion" and not "habitual thief".
> >
> > "Once a thief, always a thief" :-).
>
> As I try to keep reminding myself, there's always a downside to a
> snappy comeback. In this case you have just agreed with me that *bHo:r-
> didn't necessarily mean "habitual thief" from the beginning.
>
>
> >The point is that Gk. pHo:r and Lat.
> > fu:r mean 'thief' and not just 'carrier, porter'.
>
> So *bhe:r- would mean "carrier, porter" if it had existed (but isn't
> that "habitual" too?)? How does this enter into the picture?
>
>
> Torsten

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Patrick:

I do not suppose it can be proved one way or the other but my bet would be
on *bho:r- meaning 'loot'; and 'thief' being derived from that ('loot[er]').

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