Re: [tied] Re: 'Intrusive' phonemes in languages

From: glen gordon
Message: 39923
Date: 2005-09-10

Lars:
> I have really amused myself. Specially the thing
> about a pronunciation quatre-vingt-z-onze being
> interpreted as 80 elevenths = 880.

Yes, because the written form would be
"quatre-vingts onzes" showing that "quatre-vingts"
is modifying "onzes" and following the normal
rule of number agreement between noun and adjective
just like we see in other phrases like "les belles
dames". It's exactly the same thing.


> Do you pronounce quatre-ving-t-un in Canada?

No, that doesn't sound right. The "t" shouldn't
be there in the pronunciation. It sounds more
natural to say /katR&va~ö~/ for some reason. But
I've never paid attention to this until now.

If I say the year "1981", I say "mille-neuf-cent-
quatre-vingt-un" without the -t- between 'vingt'
and 'un'. Similarily "1991" ends in /-katR&va~o~z/.
Again, no -t- à mon avis.


= gLeN





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