Re: [tied] Re: Irish word >>mór<< 'BIG' and Romanian >>mare<

From: alex
Message: 39487
Date: 2005-08-03

Daniel J. Milton wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> II. >>mare<< Romanian word -> adj big; adj great; adj large; so
>> identical
>> url: http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=mare&source=
>> Note: The DEX's Etymology for the Romanian word is Not OK:
>> Lat. mas doesn't fit phonetically and Latin maris means 'sea' so it
>> doesn't fit semantically (It's true that the 'Sea' is 'Big' but such
>> a basic notion as 'BIG' is cannot be constructed starting from the
>> 'SEA' concept as root concept...
>>
> ********
> Your DEX reference derives Rom. 'mare' probably from the Latin
> 'mas, maris' "male". Buck explains further "in designating the male
> animal of a species and consequently the larger", with refs. to
> Puscariu and Tiktin. Certainly the Rom. would derive from a oblique
> case of rhe Latin word, probably the Acc. 'marem' with the final m
> elided. I'd say that's a pretty good fit phonetically and quite
> reasonable semantics. What are your objections?
> Dan Milton

the semantism. I disregard Alb-Rom words which looks similar if the
semantism is not the same or almost the same. I am tired of Puscariu,
Tiktin and Co which applies semantic development in such manner.Puscariu
belongs to that generation of romantics which tried to made everything
Latin.Even Rosetti disregard his explanations regarding the semantism
seeing them as "not necesary". BTW Dan, take please Latin "fortuna"
and Rom "furtun�", Latin "castigare", Rom. "c�shtiga", Latin "superare"
and Rom. "sup�rare" and so on (there are plenty of such examples). They
look perfect phoneticaly, don't they? Well, this is all. They looks like
that and this is all.

Alex




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