Re: [tied] Re: Alb. 'delirium'

From: alex
Message: 39095
Date: 2005-07-07

alexandru_mg3 wrote:
> 2) or also to suspect a link with Romanian vb. 'aiur�'
> 'to rave; to rant; (fig) to talk nonsense'
> (in fact yourself has detected this possible link in the past)
>
> We can have:
> 2.1 PAlb *ajo:r-ma (sb.) (with the PIE suffix *-mo) > LatePAlb
> *ajerma > Alb. jerm
>
> NOTE-1: a- > zero it's regular, but I'm not sure about aio: > aie: >
> je
>
>
> 2.2 PAlb *aio:r-� (vb.) > PRom aior� > Rom. aiur�
>
> NOTE-2: with regular non-stressed o > u in Romanian.
>
> Of course remains to can identify the PIE root, too.
>
> Best Regards,
> Marius

DEX consider the verb "aiura" as coming from "aiurea" and "aiurea" is
considered as being from Latin aliubi + re +a, which of course is of
course very "aiurea" ( nonsense)

It seems to me the "ai-" here is the reflex on an older "*aly-" and
"-ura" seems to be from "ura"(< *ora, thus "aiura"= "alio-orare" >
aliorare > a(l)iura(re)>aiura= to speak in foreign/strange/other way
which appears semantically solid enough. I guess these roots are IE
"*ali" and "*or".

In the same manner can be explained the word "aiurea" (sich irren):
*alio+*ore where *ore should show the movement, presumably from IE
*or/*er as in Latin "orior" or Alb. "jerm" (*er-mo) etc.
The final "a" can be explained as "due analogy" or one can see here
maybe the locative/definite article "a" alio-ore-a = this-strange-walk

Alex




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