Re: [tied] Laryngeals revisited

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 38985
Date: 2005-06-30

Anthony,
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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Laryngeals revisited

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "P&G" <G&P@......> wrote:
> h1 was probably /h/ or /?/.
> h2 may have been a velar or post-velar fricative.
> h3 may have been voiced (though evidence is slim) and may have been
> rounded.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <magwich78@......> wrote:
> My own personal feelings are:
> h1 was earlier /h/ and then /?/.
> h2 was earlier /x/ and then /h/.
> h3 was earliest /¿/, earlier /xW/, and then /hW/.

I tend to think that:-
The ordinary h1 was glottal stop.
The second h1 that some people proposed, was /h/.
h2 was the voiceless epiglottal fricative, as in Arabic h2ams = "five",
Muh2ammad (the name).
h3 was the voiced epiglottal fricative, as in Arabic h3ayn = "spring
(water source)" or "eye".
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Patrick:
 
I agree that these four sounds underlie IE *H but by the time we reach PIE, I believe we have only /?/ (Hittite Ø) and /h/ (Hittite h).
 
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