Re: passive, ingressive origins

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
wrote:

> Come to think of it, Brugmann's law prevents that solution. On the
> other hand, applying that law means that since the Latin shows -o-
> for the stem and since Sanskrit shows -a:- then the stem vowel

must

> be in an open syllable. That means that the last consonant of

roots

> in -...VC- will always belong to the suffix.

Why? Can't a suffix begin with a vowel?

> That claim will wreck
> any attempt to explain the causative suffix as originally an
> independent word, which it must have been at some time (unless

Adam

> & Eve put the formation of the causative in an addendum to their
> catalog of animal names). I therefore believe Brugmann's law

applied

> after the formation of causatives (which makes sense, since it's a
> rule about Sanskrit, not PIE).

Now I think you are being *too* particular. Suffixes are typically
cliticized words and therefore of reduced structural makeup. They
are therefore not necessarily restricted by structural rules
pertaining to full words. But in exchange for the leeway of course
we lose rigor and the ability to prove a point.

Jens