Re: passive, ingressive origins

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "elmeras2000" <jer@...> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Is it further possible to see the suffix -yé/ó- as a
> thematic
> > > > version
> > > > > of the root *ye- "impel, throw"?
> > > >
> > > > Not for me. I only know that verb as *H1yeH1-: Hitt. iemi 'I
> > make'
> > > > and Gk. hí:e:mi 'I throw, send' from IE *H1yi-H1yéH1-mi. And
> why
> > > > would it form only the present aspect?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Which 'it' ?
> >
> > The auxiliary verb from which you derive the suffix *-ye/o-. Why
> is
> > it skipped in the aorist?
> >
>
> Don't causatives and iteratives have an aorist?

As a general principle, stems formed with *-ye/o- leave it out in
the aorist. The reason is of course that *-ye/o- is not a
denominative suffix, but a durative aspect marker.

The aorist type that goes with causatives and iteratves (the *-éye-
verbs) is the reduplicated aorist. There is no direct connection as
far as the form is concerned.

Jens