Re: [tied] Albanian intervocalic s > h

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 38802
Date: 2005-06-20

I am afraid that as you, as Marius have arrived to cheese-cake in
Albanian <pite me djathë>?!

Konushevci

On 6/20/05, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> alexandru_mg3 wrote:
>
> > There is no complex PIE cluster CCC in <djathtë>, because is a recent
> > formation, Piotr. djathë is attested at BUZUKU (so with no -të). \
> > See Demiraj that consider djathë too. So we have an intervocalic k^s
> > in djathë: PIE *-k's- > PAlb c > Alb th
>
> It can't be that simple. The <ja> diphthong (sorry for misspelling the
> word in my previous posting) indicates a closed syllable even before the
> addition of the secondary <-të>. Either *-k^s- was still a cluster at
> the time when -je- and -ja- were differentiated in Proto-Albanian, or
> there was another consonant that followed it. The prototype must have
> been PIE *dek^si- with one of the few suffixes that normally go with it
> (*-wo-, *-no-, *-tero-), with some word-final simplification later on,
> most likely something like this:
>
> *dek^siwo- > *dec'(s)iw- > *diäcw- > *djacw- > *djac- > djath-
>
> The cluster *cw would have arisen too late to fall together with
> inherited *k^w > *c'W > *c^(W) > s, so the *w was simply lost, as it was
> in most other *Cw clusters in Albanian.
>
> I accept the possibility that *-k^s- and *-k^- may have fallen together
> (eventually yielding <th>) in Albanian; that would be similar to what
> happened in Slavic. But even so, the alternative metathesis *swek^uro- >
> *wesk^uro- remains an option, and *-sk^- certainly gives Albanian <-h->.
>
> Piotr
>
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