From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 38659
Date: 2005-06-15
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:************
> > elmeras2000 wrote:
> > >
> > and what does one with the reflexive pronoun in Alb. which
> is "vetja"?
> > Of course on this reason (au >a), this cannot be related anymore
> to
> > Greek "auto". But IE au > Alb. "ve" as we seen in many words, so
> one of
> > the derivations is wrong. Presumabely the one about demonstrative
> > pronouns is the wrong one.
>
> Could you mention, say, six of those "many words" that show IE au >
> Alb. ve ?
>
> I do not know what vet- is (vetë 'person', def. veta; vete 'own
> person, one's self', def. vetja). Due to the use as a reflexive
> pronoun one thinks of course of IE *swe-, but in what derivational
> form? And with what development of the initial? The unconditioned
> development of *sw- is Alb. d- (via *s^v > *z^v > *dz^v > *dv >
> d ?), but if there was a reduced form the reflex of s- could perhaps
> end up being zero in the cluster; cf. also the enclitic <u>. But as
> long as the word-formation of vet- is obscure we cannot use the
> example as an argument for or against anything.
>
> Jens