Re: [tied] Re: East Romance -i v. West Romance -s (was: Rom aia - A

aquila_grande wrote:

> I do not believe in the doctrine that the use of grammar by every
> day speach is totally unconscious.
>
>
> Secondly, use of personal pronouns was not any automatismus in
> Latin, and is still not so in Italian. The omittance of unstressed
> pronouns is the rule.

of course there is not an automatismus in Italian because the desinences
are present.
It :io posso, tu puoi, lui puo, noi possiamo, voi potete, loro possono
Rom : eu pot, tu potsi, el poate, noi putem, voi puteti, ei pot(poate)

The automatismus appears when more as two desinences are gone, then
appears the need for it. Take German as axample:
ich mache, du machst, er macht, wir machen, ihr macht, sie machen

There is already the problem. 3 sg and 2 pl merge together, 1 pl and 3
pl merge together, thus there is the need for the use of the personal
pronoun which becomes an automatismus.

>
> Therefore beginning to use unstressed personal pronouns also needed
> a consciuos decision.

could you reformulate it? I don't quiet understand the using of the
"unstressed personal pronuns" in this context.

>
> So, the Italians had the choise between two conscious decisions:
> Begin using unstresed pronius or using the i-ending from the 4th
> declention in all declensions.

That sounds exactly as what you said at the begining: doctrine of
grammarians:-))


Alex




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