Re: [tied] Romanian Verb Endings and Substratum influence (repost)

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 06:48:47 +0200, alex
<alxmoeller@...> wrote:

>Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
>
>> Rubbish. Latin cantare is an a:-verb, so the relevant
>> Lithuanian endings are the endings of the Lith. a:-verbs
>> (conj. III):
>>
>> -au
>> -ai
>> -o
>> -ome
>> -ote
>> -o (there is no 3pl. in Lith.)
>
>there is no 3 pl. in Rom. either;

Yes there is. The form is usually identical to the 3rd.sg.
in a:-verbs, and to the 1sg. in the other verbs in the
present tense, to the 3rd.sg. in the present subjunctive,
but it has independent forms in the imperfect (-(e)au) and
the preterite (-Vrã).

In Lithuanian, there are no separate forms for the third
person dual and plural anywhere in the verbal flection.

>Since we have this subject, I have a question. Which is in fact the
>relationship between verbal desinences and the personal / demonastrative
>pronoun in IE? It appears logical to me that these desinences have been
>created in relationship with the persons who are making an action, kind
>of "if "I" is the one who does it, then the desinence of the verb should
>be related to "I", if "you" is the one who does it, then the desinence
>is related to "you".
>A relationship should be there, specialy when the desinences of the verb
>( in the languages which still keep them fully) allows to avoid the use
>of the personal pronouns.

The relationship exists, but is extremely remote.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...