Re: [tied] re: German vocalism

From: alex
Message: 37922
Date: 2005-05-18

daniel prohaska wrote:
>>>> 1) is the German "au" from anything else as an older "u"?
>> Alex,
>>
>> Yes. Instances of Germanic /au/ where they haven't been
>> monophthongised to OHG /o:/ before certain consonants, i.e. NHG
>> <Baum>, <glauben>, <Haupt>.
>>
>> Dan


mmmmmm.. here seems to me to be something else. I know that even if
looks pretty appropiate, the Latin pomus is not considered to be cognate
with Germanic from of baum, boom, beam etc. The notion of "haupt" is
condiered tough to be congate with Latin "caput"; "glauben" points too a
form more appropiate to Slavic "luba" and the "u" there should be seen
stil in OHG "gilouba", Dutch "geloof", etc... In fact I want to say that
the "au" appears to be (due Gothic?) from an older "u" as well, thus the
change of "u" to "au" appears to happen two times. Once as Briam
mentioned in Noricum and once some hunderd of years earlier. I wonder if
there is indeed two times of change "u" > "au" or the early PGmc "au" is
other to explain. Apparently, looking at the IE cognates even a PGmc
"au" is from an older "u". I am overseeing anything here?

Alex




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