W. wrote:
"Se non è vero, è molto ben trovato!"
The idea that a Ruki Rule in Albanian existed too, is not a new
ideea. I put here only my argument related to this based on Albanian
Romanian List of Common Word.
Maybe Piotr could present a short update regarding the history of
this topic (pro & contra opinions)
What I want to ask also: Does Piotr or somebody else in this Forum
knows a proof that clearly demonstrate that there wasn't any Ruki
Rule in Albanian ?
Another pro-argument (this time one that I read), I agree that this
is more speculative, is that in Proto-Albanian :
1. an OLD initial shk remain shk due to its 'RUKI' sh:
from an initial *is-k- or from dis-k- etc...
2. and only the 'pure' *sk- passed to *ks and later to *h
If true, this will show that the RUKI Rule is older than sk > ks >
h in Proto-Albanian (that is not a surprize because is an old Common
Feature)
If this is true this also could push away the arrival of Albanians
in their today Balkan Region with xxxx years: Because in this case
Naissos was already NaishV in Proto-Albanian Time and Shkodër who
knows: would be from *Ish-kodra ('out of the forest/hills?')...
(I show this to help my Albanian friends with new arguments regarding
their continuity).
To take a look on Dacia :
1. Marissos (today Muresh) was already Ma:rishV,
2. Sa:mus (today Somesh) was already Sa:mushV
But what is sure is that the presence of -ss- in above attested
forms confirms at least that there wasn't a simple s there.
Best Regards,
Marius Alexandru
P.S. Potaissa (the city where I was born, today Turda) has a -ss-
reflecting a Dacian -ts- (Dacian *Patara + *witsa < PIE *pat3ra +
wik'-)
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "pielewe" <wrvermeer@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
<alexandru_mg3@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Is difficult to say if there is a RUKI rule in Albanian or not
> > because s have passed globally to sh.
> >
> > However is more probable to have a RUKI Rule in Proto-Albanian
> at
> > least regarding u and i contexts.
> >
> > Albanian - Romanian Common Words
> > Rom. cãpuSã Alb cãpushë
> > Rom. ghiuj Alb gjysh
> > Rom. muSkoi Alb. mushk
> > Rom. guSã Alb. gushë (could be also from Latin)
> >
> > 1. As you case see Rom sh - Rom sh appears only after an u.
> > Is this a coincidence? Seems more probable to be a rule.
> >
>
>
> Se non è vero, è molto ben trovato!
>
>
> W.