Re: Humboldt

From: S & L
Message: 37654
Date: 2005-05-06

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From: "tolgs001" <st-george@...>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Humboldt [was The Vlach Connection
>Is there a link between [...] Humboldt
>and a work named "Descriptio Europae Orientalis"?
>
>Is this "Descriptio Europae Orientalis" in fact "Anonymi
>descriptio Europae orientalis: [...]: anno 1308 [...]
>Cracoviae [...] 1916 [...]
>S o r i n

I don't know. But the author of the latter was an anonymous one
from France. NB the publ. year: 1308 (not 1808). AFAIK, this
prose is deemed (by Romanian historiographers) as important
in the context of the so-called "pascua Romanorum" re. Pannonia.
This leitmotiv is contained both in this Frenchman's story and in
the primeval Hungarian chronicles. Worth mentioning is that the
Hungarian anonymous notary, magister P., does not specify who
those "pastores" of the Romans were (in the "pascua"); it is the
next chronicler, Simon of K├ęza, who links them with the "Blazii".
In the notary's story, there is no link between "pascua Romanorum"
and the "Blachi" under duke Gelou (except for the mentioning
of the ethnonym in such a... grammatical way that no inferrence
is possible; but, OTOH, P's Latin (around 1200) spelling is...
alas! :-)).
Georg
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I know the story; I asked the question because "Anonymi descriptio Europae
orientalis: [...]: anno 1308" is published for the first time in Romanian
language as "Descriptio Europae Orientalis: 1308" by Anonymi geographi. Ed.
G. Popa-Lisseanu, Published: Bucuresti: Tipografia "Bucovina", 1934; Series:
Fontes historiae Daco-Romanorum; 2.

S o r i n