Re: [tied] Re: Singulative

One perceives more Knoblauch than Knobloch here.

This is a strange logic indeed!

guné is suspected of being 'collective' because gunaikós is singular.

1) -os is an ending of the nominative _singular_;

2) no 'singulative' formant is known in PIE of -*(i)ko except for this alleged instance;

3) -*(i)ko is well-known as a diminuitive-formant;

4) in languages around the world, women are often characterized as 'little', both out of affection (baby-love) and physical size (usually they are smaller).

Your case is not proved at all.

And you would be well-advised not to rely on anything in Gam & Iv, or trust in anything they adopt from other sources and logically slip-shod. They are notoriously unreliable.

Patrick

----- Original Message -----

From: tgpedersen

To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:35 AM

Subject: [tied] Re: Singulative

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "P&G" <G&P@......> wrote:
> >> I read in Gam & Iv that Gk. 'gunaikos' "woman" has been
proposed to
> > be
> >> a collective with a singulative -k- suffix.
>
> Then why is the -k- absent from the nominative, of all places?
Why gune:
> and not gunaix?

So, I found the quote:
G & I p 246 note 17.
"According to Knobloch (1955:213, 1958:240), there is evidence for a
former collective meaning of Greek guné: < *gW(e)na: in
the 'singulative' formations such as gunaikós (with a suffix *-k- of
the same type as in Avent. pasuka- "domestic animal", cf. pasu-
"livestock")."

I need a Greek course. On the other hand, my original idea that the
-k- suffix of Nordwestblock words was singulative seems to hold.

Torsten

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