Re: [tied] Re: Albanian: length of time in the Balkans

From: alex
Message: 37524
Date: 2005-05-03

pielewe wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
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>> no educated person doubts abut the autochtony of Albanians in Balcan.
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> I'm sorry but I take issue with that on two counts. First, autochthony
> is a relative concept and, second, we are not talking "Albanians"
> (i.e. people in a biological sense) so much as the Albanian language.
> No person can doubt either that the presence of Albanian on the
> Balkans, like that of any other Indo-European language spoken there
> (or for that matter in Central or Western Europe), is the outcome of
> some kind of secondary migration which must have brought the
> Indo-European language that was to evolve into Albanian to the area.
> And few people can doubt that Albanian as attested involves at least
> one episode of language shift. No Balkan language is autochthonous in
> any absolute sense. The language of the Neolithic agriculturalists
> has been dead for a long time and if it somehow continued the
> language that was carried to Thessaly by colonists from Asia Minor
> (which may or may not be the case) that language, too, was intrusive.
> On the other hand it is quite likely that the present-day speakers of
> Albanian carry genes they inherited from the speakers of that
> long-dead language.

Willem, I did not meant it in the absolute sense and I don't want to go
deeper into this subject since, on another hand,the common lexica which
is in Albanian and Romanian and apparently has not IE origin can speak
for neolithic people you mean here. Since for such ideas is no proof in
the common accepted sense of the word, it should be better to leave the
subject. It is -as you said too- a sad situation when such subjects are
used for grounding political claims and it is not my intention to
sustain such claims.

Alex







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