Re: [tied] Deiwos AND dyews

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 36847
Date: 2005-03-24

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:47:02 +0000, "A." <xthanex@...>
wrote:

>A real basic question which shows my lack of linguistic skill, but I
>have gotten tired of saying to others, "Oh the terms are all
>cognates" without being able to express exactly how they are related.
>
>I took the following from the AHD online (bits omitted for brevity):
>
>ENTRY: dyeu-
>DEFINITION: To shine (and in many derivatives, "sky, heaven, god").
>Zero-grades *dyu- and *diw-.
>
> I. Basic form *dyeu-, Jove, the name of the god of the bright sky,
>head of the Indo-European pantheon. 1. Jove, jovial; Sangiovese, from
>Latin Iovis, Jupiter, or Iov-, stem of Iuppiter, Jupiter. 2. July,
>from Latin Ilius, "descended from Jupiter" (name of a Roman gens),
>from derivative *iou-il-. 3. Vocative compound *dyeu-pter, "O father
>Jove" (*pter-, father; see pter-). Jupiter, from Latin Iuppiter,
>Ipiter, head of the Roman pantheon. 4. Dione, Zeus; dianthus,
>Dioscuri, from Greek Zeus (genitive Dios), Zeus.
> II. Noun *deiwos, god, formed by e-insertion to the zero-grade
>*diw- and suffixation of (accented) -o-. 1a. Tiu, Tuesday, from Old
>English Tw (genitive Twes), god of war and sky; b. Tyr, from Old
>Norse Tr, sky god. Both a and b from Germanic *Twaz. 2. deism, deity,
>Deus, joss; adieu, deific, from Latin deus, god. 3. diva, divine,
>from Latin dvus, divine, god. 4. Dis, Dives, from Latin dves, rich
>(< "fortunate, blessed, divine"). 5. Suffixed zero-grade form *diw-yo-
>, heavenly. Diana, from Latin Dina, moon goddess. 6. Devi; deodar,
>Devanagari, from Sanskrit deva, god, and deva-, divine. 7. Asmodeus,
>from Avestan dava-, spirit, demon.
>
>I am assuming the Vedic Dyaus comes from the dyeu stem?

Yes.

>Do the Baltic and Slavic Dievas/Deivs come from the deiwos stem??

Yes, the Baltic words at any rate (Slavic uses
Iranian-derived bogU in the meaning "god").

>Could someone express the rules which govern the linguistic changes
>as the term evolves from deiwos to Tiwaz in both Anatolian and
>Germanic???

Germanic *deiwos > *ti:waz (regular soudlaws *d > t, *ei >
i:, *o > a, *-s > -z).

The Hittite words are {d}Siu:- "(sky) god" and si:waz (=
/siwats/), si:watt- "day". *di/*dy become si/sy in Hittite,
*eu > u:. si:waz is apparently from *díw-o(:)t-s
(soundlaws: di > si, í > í:, o(:) > a).

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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