Re: [tied] Re: tr- and rhoticity

On 05-03-04 16:59, Jim Rader wrote:

> Before the rhotic thread peters out entirely...
>
> I have the impression that <tr> in Mapudungu spelling is used for a
> retroflex c^, which is distinct from a palatal c^ customarily written
> <ch> (cf. Adelaar, _The Languages of the Andes_, p. 517). It's not,
> in a Mapudungu context, a combination of a dental stop and a rhotic.
> No essential difference between the use of initial <ch> and <tr> in
> Vietnamese "quoc-ngu." To European ears a retroflex affricate or
> stop at this articulatory point seems to have suggested a sequence of
> /t/ and /r/.

And former <Truk> (in Micronesia) is now officially spelt <Chuuk> (the
word means 'cliff' in Chuukese.

Piotr