Re: -estris suffix, Latin, origin

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao" <josimo70@...> wrote:
> > What's the origin of Latin suffix -(e)stris? IE or non-IE?
> >
> > terra : terrestris
> > campus : campestris
> > ager : agrestis
> > caelus : caelestis
> > nemus : nemestris
> > rupes : rupestris
> > silva : silvestris
> > palus : palustris
> > lacus : lacustris
> >
> Remarques
> I En latin, le suffixe s'augmente parfois d'un -i- final;
> ...

ainsi dans terrester (ou terrestris de l'ancien thème *teres-,
modifié d'après terra)

> ru:restris...
> siluester (siluestris)...
> campester (campestris)...
> magister, minister...
> equester (equestris)...
> pedester (pedestris)...
> "
>
>> http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE528.html
>
> But, what is the original suffix? -tr- or -str-.
> Perhaps a -tr added to nemus (nemes-), > nemes-tr-i-s, later added
>analogically to o- and a-stems?.

Vendryes is not very explicit on the subject.
Perhaps analogically with 'magister', 'minister', ie. from non-
thematic stem + -ter? Old Latin, like later Romance, unlike Classical
Latin, had a tendency to drop final -s, so supposing -ter was
originally added to a nominative or genitive?


Torsten