Re: [tied] Romance Neuter Nouns (was: Lat. -idus)

From: alex
Message: 35946
Date: 2005-01-15

Miguel Carrasquer wrote:

>> The _definite_ form for your example is not "aceste lemne" but
>> "lemnele acestea". That is:
>> (lemn+e+le acest+e+a)
>> N msc. sg. noun "lemn" + plural fem marker "-e"+ definite article
>> fem. pl "-le" positioned before demonstt. article msc. sg. "acest"
>> + fem. mark "-e" plus deictic element "-a"(in fact, mark for
>> definite). Even the position of the demonstrativa change its place
>> when it is definite. So, which is the demonstrative you mean for
>> fem. pl which ends in "-e"?
>
> All of them end in -e.

Yes. All of them ( fem). end in "-e". that is no demonstrative here here
but just the general mark for n. fem. pl.

>
>> I see there an "-a" for demonstrativa, not an "-e".
>
> The -a has nothing to do with fem.pl. and has even less to
> do with the Eastern Romance generalization of n.pl. -e
> instead of -a (Northern Italian, Romanian).
>
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...

I am afraid I lost your path. You said the "-e" should be the
generalised form of demonstrative "ilae" but Miguel, the "-e" is not a
generalisation of Eastern Romance. The "-e" for n. fem. pl. is in
Albanian, in Slavic, In Rom. in Italian, in Germanic, etc.
Let it be my fault but I have the feeling you make a mix of Latin
demonstrative with plural marker in "-e". Or I understood less as 10 %
from what you intended to say.

Alex




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