Re: Lith. Z^em. obuolas 'apple' That's IT(was: Slavic compound word

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Sergejus Tarasovas"
<s.tarasovas@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "whetex_lewx" <whetex_lewx@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe we'll continue
> > discussion in future,
> > veiz[i']ese:m k['a]t(u)rs k['a]tron uz^varte:[y~]s d[a:~] :)
>
> I hope we both are aiming to ascertain the truth, not to win a
> contest, aren't we? :)
>

Ofcourse yes :)

> > Piotr wrote that apple was in PIE h2(a)bo:l-os. How -is in Lith.
> and
> > Latvian dialects and -e in Prussian are explainable?
>
> See Zinkevic^ius p. 240ff, also Kazlauskas (Lietuviu, kalbos
> istorine: grammatika) p. 242ff, especially p. 286 ("l- ir kitu,
> kamienu, nykimas"). In a nutshell, the apple-word is an old
> consonantal stem (*l-stem), and, to quote Zinkevic^ius, "Baltu,
> kalbose nykstantys priebalsiniai kamienai pereina i, i

kamiena, ...

> [tam] pradzia, dave: priebalsiniu, ir i kamieno akuzatyvo

fleksijos

> fonetinis sutapimas ... ve:liau, s^iam [i kamienui -- ST]

nykstant, i

> kamieno formos buvo perdirbtos (i)jo kamieno pavyzdz^iu".
>
> So, *h2(a)bo:l- > (Winter's law) *a:bo:l- -> (by analogy with i-
> stems) <obuolìs>, G. sg. <obuolie~s> -> (by analogy with *(i)jo-
> stems) <obuoly~s>.
>

___So, this feature tells, that -as is exception. Also it probably
means that Proto-Balto-Slavic had only l-stem without accessory
ending -os and -is, there wasn't abo:l-os, but there was only
abo:l.___

> Cf. also (Kazlauskas): "Greta vartojami <obuoly~s> (plg. lat.
> <a:buolis>), <obuolìs>, <-ie~s> ... , <óbuolas> (Salantai,

Kretinga,

> Varniai) rodo savo kilme, is^ priebalsinio kamieno: <obuoly~s> :
> <debesy~s> [<debesìs> -- an old *s-stem word, < *nebHes- -- ST];
> <obuolìs>, <-ie~s> : debesìs>, <-ie~s>; <óbuolas> : <a~kmenas>
> [<akmuo~> -- an old *n-stem word, < *h2akmen- -- ST]".
>
> Sergei

___I guess the sun "saule:" has the same l-stem?___

___Why PIE n- became d- in some Baltic and Slavic cases (debes[i']s,
devyn['i], niebo, dievyad'...)___

P.S. how *h2akmo:n became kamien' in slavic?