Re: [tied] Walachians are placed far North the Danube in Nestor (10

From: alex
Message: 35612
Date: 2004-12-23

george knysh wrote:

> *****GK: I would like to add that the expression
> "chased away" also suggested that organized Wallachian
> communities (with leaders) existed somewhere beyond
> the boundaries of the "Hungarian Land". Microanalysis
> of the Tale's text indicates that this "somewhere"
> started with Bulgaria south of the Danube. It is the
> Onogurs, according to Sylvester, who "chased away" the
> Wallachians from the territory of southern Romania and
> Moldavia in the 7th c. But the Bulgarians did no
> "chasing away". Which implies that the Wallachian
> aristocracy continued to exist south of the Danube,
> along with Slavs and dominant Bulgars. And this was
> surely in line with historical reality. This is why
> the Kyivan policy makers of 1116, intent on reviving
> the imperial dreams of Svyatoslav, were suddenly
> interested in the Wallachians.****


are these facts not a bit too early my dear? So far we remember, the Magyars
have been called by Bulgarians to help them against the Byzantins and as the
Magyars made on their way, the Byzantins calle dhte Petchenges against
Hungarian. Thus, the help hoped by Bulgarians (not the Slavs, but the old
Turkishlike folk), was never happened since the Magyars hearing about
Petchenges coming over them, they changed the route and went to Kiev where
they conquested the city. Later with the help of Rutenians they have been
brought ( the Trutenians showed them the way) to Panonia.
But this is all in the X century and not 7-th century, isnt't it?

Alex