Re: [tied] More Slavic accentology

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:13:01 +0000, Thomas Olander
<olander@...> wrote [slightly rearranged]:

>In Copenhagen, some of us believe in a sound law we call "Slaaby-Larsen's Law" (named
>after Martin Slaaby-Larsen, who pointed it out to us). The sound law resembles "van Wijk's
>Law" (see e.g. Collinge, The Laws of I-E, p. 197-198). Central to van Wijk, however, were
>clusters containing *j (the so-called *vòlja-type), which I think is another - and much
>more complicated - story. Accordingly, in order to avoid confusion, I call the law
>presented here Slaaby-Larsen's law.

Unfortunately, I had never heard of it.

>A tentative and, to some extent, theory-neutral formulation of the law is:
>
>In Pre-Slavic, words with mobile accentuation containing a medial cluster C1C2 (where C1
>= obstruent, C2 = any consonant, probably except j and w) get fixed root-stress (yielding
>CS a.p. a or - via Dybo's law - a.p. b).
>
>This explains:
>
>Pre-Sl. mobile *dubna > CS *dUnò;
>Pre-Sl. mobile *gnayzda > CS *gne^zdò;
>Pre-Sl. mobile *seydla > CS *sidlò;
>Pre-Sl. mobile *kirsnu *kirsna: *kirsna > CS *c^I´rnU *c^Irnà *c^Irnò;
>(? Pre-Sl. mobile *p(t)etra > CS *però;)
>etc.

As far as the oxytone neuters are concerned, I truly think
my solution is simpler (nothing changed from PIE to Slavic),
and explains much more (e.g. why most oxytone neuters are
AP(b) and why there are hardly any AP(c) neuters). Note
that besides the suffixes -nó-, -ló-, -ró-, etc., neuters
ending in -inó-, -imó-, -ikó-, -ijó- etc. are also AP(b):
bIrvInó, govInó, gumInó, kopIjé, pisImó, sIrdIcé, etc., so
the phenomenon is by no means restricted to formations
containing -CC-.

>Pre-Sl. mobile *agni > CS *ògnI;
>Pre-Sl. mobile *mizda: > CS *mIzdà;

>Pre-Sl. mobile *neslu *nesla: *nesla > CS *nèslU *neslà *neslò;
>Pre-Sl. mobile *peklu *pekla: *pekla > CS *pèklU *peklà *peklò;
>Pre-Sl. mobile *kla:dlu *kla:dla: *kla:dla > CS *kla"dlU *kla"dla *kla"dlo;
>Pre-Sl. mobile *pa:dlu *pa:dla: *pa:dla > CS *pa"dlU *pa"dla *pa"dlo;
>Pre-Sl. mobile *se:dlu *se:dla: *se:dla > CS *se^"dlU *se^"dla *se^"dlo;
>Pre-Sl. mobile *e:dlu *e:dla: *e:dla > CS *e^"dlU *e^"dla *e^"dlo;
>etc.
>(Cf. Pre-Sl. mobile *derlu *derla: *derla > CS *dêrlU *derlà *dêrlo with C1 not = obstr.)
>Pre-Sl. end-stressed *kla:dte:y > CS *kla"sti;
>Pre-Sl. end-stressed *pa:dte:y > CS *pa"sti;
>etc.
>(Cf. Pre-Sl. end-stressed *ge:rte:y > CS *z^ertì with C1 not = obstr.)
>

I'll have to give these some thought.

>Pre-Sl. mobile *tapna:n *tapnexi etc. > CS *tonù *tònes^I etc.;
>etc. (this applies to most ne-presents).

In the case of né-presents, I again think that my solution
is simpler and has greater explicative power. There are
only a few PIE thematic categories with stress on the
thematic vowel. Easily recognizable are -sk^é, -yé, and
-né-. *-sk^é is only poorly represented in Slavic (but
<iskati> fits the pattern), but the other two are
systematically AP(b). That can hardly be a coincidence.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...