Re: Rom. tsarca - Lit. s^árka

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 35383
Date: 2004-12-07

>As for Romanian linguists, there were some important
>luminaries who went on studying all these phenomena
>decades after both Densu$ianus had passed away...

There are two reference books in Romania regarding the
"History Of Romanian Language"

(my personal opinion, is that we can hardly add any other names to
the below list)

In chronological order these books are:

I. Ovid DensuSianu : "Histoire de la Langue Roumaine"
(this book is written at the same level as Rosetti's book, please
consult it if possible: is in French too)

"L'origine hongroise de 't,arcã' (hong. 'szarka') ne nous semble
pas suffisamment démontrée, bien qu'elle soit admise par quelques
savants."


II. Al. Rosetti "Istoria Limbii Romane"

In the chapter : "Elemente Maghiare in Limba Rom^ana" (vol IV-
VI), Rosetti present a list of about 75 Hungarian Loans in Romanian.

'Tsarca/szarka' is not present in this list. In fact there is no
reference to 't,arca' in this chapter and is well known Rosetti's
position to not include any problematic word in such reference lists.

(as another example of such reference list see Rosetti's 'Albanian-
Romanian commmon word list' that I uploaded in the past for Balkanika
and Cybalist)

So please use carefully the 'all' particle when you make reference
to Romanian Linguist positions, especially on such specific points
because there are peoples in this forum that cannot know such details
regarding such specific positions presented by Romanian
Linguists ...and will retain your assertations as definitive
conclusions.

Only the Best,
Marius

P.S. Seems that you didn't consult DensuSianu in detail if you can
consider his book as a 'deprecated' one. (I doubt that you can make
such an assertion in any University in Romania).

As an example for the other people in this forum: his book is
referenced by Rosetti 24 times only in ILR Vol. I (especially in the
Chapters when Rosetti talks about the Latin Rules in Romanian).