Alb. "vatër" ( it was (Re: [tied] Re: Albanian valle )

From: tgpedersen
Message: 35201
Date: 2004-11-25

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> Cf. Jysk 'Wolle' < Danish 'Ole', presumably o: > úo > uó > wo . I
> think it's likely the 'prothetic' v- of eg. Russian vosem' "eight"
> developed the same way: o > uó > wo > vo .
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> o > uó > wo > vo seems logical.
>
> But the issue in Albanian is that we have also dialectal 'va'
> see 'vatër'. (there is a:>o in Albanian but this transformation is
> available everywhere in Albanian so is a global rule and not a
> dialectal rule)
>
> The issue here is not only 'vo' to be explained but the following
> fact:
>
> Why we have the variance 'va'~vo' in Albanian Dialects?
>
> If somebody tell me that this variance could arrive from a single
> common *a: > *o > vo~va , I think that everybody could still have
> doubts regarding this equation because there is no explanation
> regarding 'va'.
>

Actually Danish (in other dialects) has something similar, which
unites wa-, wo- and o:-, namely wa > wo (> o:) in two locations a few
km's apart: Vordingborg & Oringe (< *warþ- "watch tower"), presumably
from a 'higher' and 'lower' variant of the same word. Also *þwah- >
Sw. 'två', Dan. 'to' "wash", but Sw. 'vagn', Da. 'vogn'.
But that's of course out of the question, if you want to start from
a:- .


Torsten