Re: Alb. aj possible origins?

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 35112
Date: 2004-11-13

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
<alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
>
> Some examples : Old Alb. PAlb.
> Alb. lajthi 'hazel nut' < *l.uanj.thi < *l.uanj.thi < *(a)
l.uanj.tsja

[AK]
False etymology.

> Alb. shaj 'to insult' < *sh.aunj < *sh.aunj.a <
*s.adunj.a

[AK]
False etymology. Albanian <shaj> is similar to Lat. <insilio> from
in + salio and I see no reason to not derive it from *sal-yo.

> Alb. laj 'to wash' < l.aun < *l.aunj.a < l.aunj.a

[AK]
Alb. < laj> is derived from suffixed o-grade form *lou-nyo > PAlb.
lanj of PIE verb root *leu(H)- `to wash' (*au & *ou > Alb. /a/),
comparable with Greek <louein> `to wash', Lat. <lavere>, Germanic
<laugo:(OE leag > lye) from suffixed form *lou-ka); lather < *lou-
tro.

> Alb. qaj 'to cry' < kl.aunj < *kl.aunj.a < k(e)
l.aunj.a

[AK]
In same way was created Alb. <qaj> (standard and Tosk form), PAlb.
<klanj>, from o-grade form *k^lou-nyo or (as per Beekes *k^leH2u-
nyo) > PAlb. klanj (attested also in Illyrian name
Vescleves `(person with) good fame, name') of PIE verb root *k^leu-
`to hear'.

> Alb. shajtoj < Lat. sagitta:re?

[AK]
Correct.

> Alb. gjaj 'to resemble' < ?
> Alb. maj 'to fatten' < ?

[AK]
Same formation we have also in adjective root *mad- `fat, weel-fed'
that yields Alb. <maj> `to feed' from PAlb. <manj> and this from PIE
*mad-nyo:. Other interestind derivative is <mazë> `cream' from *mad-
ya: (Pokorny, *mad-, 694-695).

> Alb. mbaj 'to carry' < ?
Alb. <mbaj-1> is hard to explain, for, there are all chances that we
have the verb from very different origin. <mbaj> `to feed, respect'
is secondary form of Tosk dialect of the verb <maj> (see above).
<mbaj-2> `carry', probably is derived from preffixed form of o-grade
form of verb root *bher- `to carry': *H1en + bhor-nyo > nbanj >
mbanj > mbaj. <mbaj-3> `to keep, hold, comport', intr. <mbahem> `to
be keeped, holded, comported', infinitive <m'u mbajtë> `to hold,
comport' , to my view, is derived from suffixed noun root *bak- (cf.
Lat. <baculum> `walking stick, rod'; Greek <baktron> `staff').

> Alb. ndaj 'towards' < ?

[AK]
<ndaj> `towards' is derived from prefixed locative *ani > nd- + ani
> ndanj > ndaj (Jokl).

> Alb. ndaj 'to cut' < ?

[AK]
<ndaj> `to divide', also dialectal form <daj> is derived from zero-
grade form *dH2- of PIE verb *da:-, oldest from *deH2- `to divide',
suffixed in –nyo (see Pokorny *da:-, *dH- 175).

> Alb. ngaj 'to run' < ?
Alb. <ngaj> `to run', inchoative verb <ngah> is derived by Beekes
from *gWm.-sko, so <nganj> from *gWm.-nyo (*m. > Alb. /a/).

> More recent sources are :
> Alb. -ajk < OldAlb. -alk < PAlb -alk
> ----------------------------------------
> Ex: ajkë < OldAlb. alkë < PAlb -alka
>
> Alb. -ajg < OldAlb. -alg < PAlb -alg
> ----------------------------------------
> bajgë < OldAlb. balgë < PAlb *balega

[AK]
I think it's a Germanic loan, if we take into consideration Geg form
<bagël>

> But not : jt < lt ( balta remain balta
> naltë(var.lartë) remain naltë)
> so there is no reason to say that we can have also
>
jth < lth
[AK]
Discussed at length in Cybalist and Balkanika.

>
> More recent we have also:
> Alb aj < Old Alb al'i < PAlb ali
> -------------------------------------------
> Ex: aj < Old Alb al'i(u) < Lat. alium
> faj < Old Ald fal'j(a) < Lat. *fallia
[AK]
Correct.
>
> Any feedback?

[AK]
Some words are treated at length in Cybalist, like <gjaj>.

> Best Regards,
> marius

Konushevci