Re: Alternance a-u in Romanian [...]

From: tolgs001
Message: 35089
Date: 2004-11-12

alexandru_mg3@ wrote:

> 'Maris'/'Muresh'

Romanian Mures ['mureS] must've had an intermediary with
['mo-] in order to turn ['mu-]. In contrast with the other
hydronym, Mara ['mara], in the Northern province of Maramures,
whose Southern part belongs to Romania and whose Northern
part to Ukraine (and whose local/regional name in Romanian
is Maramurãs [mara'mur&S] and in Hungarian Maramaros
['ma:-rO-mO-roS]).

So, Mara alone and Mara in MaramureS/MaramurãS haven't
changed to *Mura, yet ancient Marisia has. (We don't know
the exact pronunciation, by the autochtonous population,
for Marisia. This is only the rendition by ancient
chroniclers or geographers.)

> 'sudui'/'shaj'?

The verb <a suduí> [su-du-'i] "to swear at, scold, curse"
is a Hungarian loanword <szid-> [sid]. Its reflex, as a
noun, <sudalmã> [su-'dal-m&] is even more transparent: Hung.
<szidalom> ['sid-O-lom]. Here, even the Hung. suffix
-alom (or: -V+lVm) has been kept (as -almã, that in
Romanian has no significance, except for the final -ã
showing it is a feminine noun).

>P.S.: Please also be reserved in your appreciations if you want
>to enter in a discussion (see Piotr's moderation rules)...
>I will not answer if you cannot do this.

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