Re: [tied] Alternance a-u in Romanian [...]

"BTW, all Romanian examples given are fallacious (etymologically)."

M. Iacomi, what examples are fallacious (etymologically)
among 'putina'/'tinar',
'burta'/'bark',
'aluniTa'/'lajthi' - 'lyth',
'Maris'/'Muresh',
'Tisa'/'Patissus'
'sudui'/'shaj'?

(I keep away 'apa'/'ape'/'upe:' from this)

Please put your own 'non-falacious' derivations and arguments here
to can compare them with my derivations for each of these words
BEFORE to make appreciation like this...
(Also please try to copy your derivations for a good book before to
post them here).

Regards,
marius

P.S.: Please also be reserved in your appreciations if you want to
enter in a discussion (see Piotr's moderation rules)...I will not
answer if you cannot do this.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "m_iacomi" <m_iacomi@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Sergejus Tarasovas" wrote:
>
> >>>>> as I know the
> >>>>> alternace a-a a-u is present also in Lithuanian, but I
haven't
> >>>>> enough knoledge on this
> >
> >>> "I don't follow. Could you elaborate on that or give an
example?"
> >>
> >> I can give you some examples:
> >>
> >> I. From Pokorny root a:p-2 we have:
> >> Rom. apa 'water'
> >> Lit. ùpė, Lett. upe `water, river, river
stream'
> [...]
> >> So Rom. apa - Lit. ùpė
> >
> > Thank you. I cannot comment on the other examples -- asking for
> > examples I meant Lithuanian only.
> > East Baltic *upe: (Lith. ùpe:, Latv. upe) indeed looks aberrant
> > (if one wants to derive it from PIE *h2ap- 'water'), but whatever
> > be its origin, it's not what one would readily call "alternace
> > a-a a-u in Lithuanian", wouldn't he? Just an isolated word of
> > unknown history.
>
> Well, actually that's not an alternation in any language one would
> like to consider. At least according to usual definition of what an
> alternation is in linguistics: "The variation of the phonetic form
> of a morpheme such that each of the alternants appears under certain
> conditions" (of course, in a given language).
> BTW, all Romanian examples given are fallacious (etymologically).
>
> Cheers,
> Marius Iacomi