Re: [tied] Dareios = Persian ...?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:

> On 04-10-13 18:31, Joao wrote:
>
> > Is this dHa:r root is the same as dHar-?
> > Has this name an inverted form *Vahu-dha:raya- ?
> > What would be the PIE etymo? dHe:r-eyo-wesu ?
>
> From PIE *dHer-. Here, the underlying stem is <da:raya-> < *dHor-

éje-,

> with Brugmannian lengthening. I'm not a specialist in Old Iranian
> onomastics, but if similar compounds in Avestan and Sanskrit are
> anything to go by, the full form of the first element of Darius's

name

> is actually *da:rayat-, with the *-t- lost in Old Persian sandhi --

a

> compositionally reduced form of the participle <da:rayant->. Cf.

Skt.

> epithets like <dHarayat-kavi-> 'supporting/cherishing sages'. I

don't

> think the elements could be reversed in this kind of name. The

name is

> of course Iranian, not PIE, so a PIE reconstruction makes little

sense,

> but typologically similar dithematic names can be found here and

there.

>
> Piotr

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To my view, Persian <dara> is derived from o-grade form *dhor-o- of
PIE *dher-'to hold firmly, support': bajrak•dar 'flagholder',
diz•dar castle commander', sir•dar (sir 'head') 'cheaf, commander',
tahsil•dar 'tax collector', etc. Cf. also *darHago:ba:zu 'having
long arm' in Avestan.

Konushevci