Re: pan-

From: tgpedersen
Message: 34542
Date: 2004-10-07

> >
> > That this 'vocalisme a, mot populaire' (ie. loanword) word should
> be
> > loaned into Germanic, Celtic and Romance from Latin is not the
> only
> > viable possibility (ie. Nordwestblock).

> I don't have Meillet's dictionary, but find in Buck's "Synonyms".
> Greek 'patane' "flat dish" (cf. 'petannumi' "spread out")-->
> Latin 'patina' --> MLat. 'panna' --> OEng. 'panne' --> MEng 'pan'.
> American Heritage Dictionary (which is more scrupulous about
> flagging unattested forms)has the OEng. "from WGermanic *panna,
> probably from Vulgar Latin *patna from Latin 'patina'.
> Sounds entirely reasonable to me. What's the objection?

Something about the late occurrence of the loan in France. I'll check
Meillet next time I'm at the Central Library.

Torsten