Re: Why borrow 'seven'? (was: IE right & 10)

From: loreto bagio
Message: 34172
Date: 2004-09-16

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham"
<richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Exu Yangi" <exuyangi@...>
wrote:
> > No later than Genesis was written down, I suppose, which contains
> > the tern shabbath. Is that too late for the word to spread?
> >
> >
> > >Perhaps not four groups of
> > > seven, but seven groups of four?
> > >
> > Like the seven phases of the moon?
> >
> >
> > > As for being a taboo word, and hence borrowed from elsewhere ---

> > usually
> > > taboo words find their replacements from within the native
> stock.
> > Withness
> > > Japanese shi (death;four) being replaced from another counting
> > heirarchy.
> >
> > But no one called it a taboo replacement or noa word.
>
> That was my suggestion. It was one mechanism I could think of for
> widespread (IE, Etruscan & Uralic at least) replacement.
>
> Richard.

How about the fourth day as a day of 'renewal'?
We know that the moon died for three days in a month before it start
appearing again (the New Moon).
It seems also 3.5 or between three or four days.
In Revelations and the Book of Enoch there were references to 3.5.
But Jesus somewhere in the Gospels (I'll search for it) was known to
have said that he will destroy this temple and within three days he
will build it again. Actually referring to his resurrection. but
perhaps some confusion attributes it that he rose on the third day.

And of course the seventh day as another layer of renewal? After
three of three days? That was maybe before we named the seven days in
accordance with the sun, moon and the five planets.

Anyway other candidates of comparison with the four being a taboo
word as synanymous to death is that four sides signifies a coffin. Or
the fourth layer (steps) is where the tomb of the dead is (like in
some pyramids).
In Aztec mythology the world was destroyed 'four times'.
I think we find in some Hebrew sources it was five. And we are now in
the sixth world and looking forward to a New Jerusalem (the seventh)?

We may look at those for where the source(s) was/were.

Loreto