Re: big-mouth 'brbljiv' or crazy 'brljiv' Milosevic

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <george_st@...> wrote:

> >'Ordbog over det danske sprog' has 'brøle', with long
> >vowel, 'probably from German'. The word is used of cows,
> >too. The editors assume influence from 'bøle' id. which
> >is found in Swedish too, unlike brøle/brüllen. 'brølle'
> >is found dialectally. Further: Norw dial. 'braula',
> >Shetland 'brøl'
> >
> >The geographical spread makes a loan from German unlikely.
>
> Couldn't such words have been extant in all Germanic idioms
> at the same time? (OTOH, cf. German Müller, grün vs. North
> German Möller, grön; so, brøl(l)- doesn't seem unusual at
> all to me.)
>
> >That and the uncertain vowel length would support your
> >assumption of a non-IE origin, in my opinion.
> >
> >Torsten
>
> According to Germ. linguists, <brüllen> could/should be
> seen in connection with <prahlen> & <prallen> + <prellen>.
> (I don't know whether <plärren> < Mittelhochdeutsch
> <blerren> could also be taken into consideration.)
>
> George

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In this case, if the German root <prahlen> `to grosstun, to praise,
laud' is the base of <brülle> as a voiced variant, I am afraid that
they could/should be a loan from Proto-Albanian <mburr> `to praise,
laud, grosstun', a prefixed form of Alb. <burrë> `man, growing one',
that in sandi (see <mburr>), to my view, is derived from *k^er- `to
grow' (burrë < *k^or-wo-, cf. Gr. <kore:> `girl', <kouros> `boy',
Dioscuri, etc.). There is historical evidence for the migration of
Illyrian tribe Paemani in the north and Alb. <burrë> is also very
early attested in Dacian king name Burebista. We also know that
extended root *k^re:-sko yields in Latin: crescendo, crescent, etc.
I doubt too that this root is also mixed with the meaning of other
root *k^er- `horn', so it colored the meaning `to grow' with the
meaning `to sharp horns', the meaning that it has in Alb.
<bërlyket> `to sharp horns'.
So, even I dislike borrowing theory, it seems that this root is,
indeed, of IE origin.

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