Re: [tied] Re: Active / Stative

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 33753
Date: 2004-08-10

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:06:50 +0100, petegray
<petegray@...> wrote:

>> >>e:ius, cu:ius and hu:ius.
>> >That should be eyyus, cuyyus, huyyus. >
>> I was citing the Classical Latin forms, where Vjj > > V:j.
>
>Nonsense.
>I was also talking of the Classical forms, where Vjj survives, and does not
>undergo the process you mention.

My Latin grammar says e:ius, etc. It certainly doesn't say
"eyyus".

> I refer you to W Sidney Allen "Vox Latina" pp38f
> "In the interior of a word [the i-consonant] rarely occurred singly
>between vowels. ... With a few exceptions noted below, wherever a single,
>intervocalic i-consonant is written it stands for a _double_ consonant, i.e.
>/yy/ [WSAllen's emphasis]. Thus aio maior .. stand for aiio maiior etc.
>This is quite clear from various types of evidence. [grammarians, reports
>of early spellings, inscriptions, Italian reflexes etc]...
> There are two small classes of apparent exceptions, but both are
>concerned with compounds of which the second element begins with consonantal
>i. In e.g. di:-iudico, tra:-iectus e:-iaculo pro:-iectus de:-iero the first
>syllable has a long vowel, and there is no reason to think the following
>i-consonant is double. In biiugus, qadriiugus, the syllables bi- and ri-
>are light, so that here too the i-consonant must be single."
>
>We must therefore accept eyyus, cuyyus, huyyus, unless you can dispose of WS
>Allen's evidence, and the explicit statements of Roman grammarians.

I have no intention of doing that. I only claim the right
to cite the forms as they are written in the grammars and
dictionaries (e:ius, ma:ior).

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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