Re: [tied] Uralic Substrate in Germanic?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Marco Moretti"
<marcomoretti69@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, enlil@... wrote:
> > Peter:
> > > Yes, it is borrowed from Germanic. Estonian borrows the same

word

> > > as 'edi' but it's meaning is wife rather than mother. The
> original
> > > word for Finnish mother was/is 'emo' from Uralic.
> >
> > I'm curious. From what does the Germanic term owe its origin

then?

> > Interestingly, there is also Etruscan /ati/ "mother" and, if I

get

> > my way, the same word which opens the Minoan Libation Formula,
> > theoretically referring to the goddess A-SA-SA-RA-ME "Asherah"
> > further on in the repeated inscriptions (ie: "mother of the

gods").

> > Is the origin of the word known for certain? Can I suspect it as
> > being Tyrrhenian without people getting mad at me :)
> >
> >
> > = gLeN
>
>
> Hello
>
> Ultimate origine of Germanic /*aithi:-/ is unknown. It is

certainly a

> substrate item, but Finnish had this word from Germanic (and not

the

> reverse). Etruscan /ati/ has no dyphthong /ai/ and it is not a
> suitable relative.
>
> Marco

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Why "certainly a substrate item"? An independent origin as a
nursery word seems to me more likely than borrowing ineither
direction.
Could Pokorny 127 (a:>tos Lallwort "Vater" "Mutter") be relevant?
Pokorny does not cite the Gothic, but does have: "Ein auf den
verschiedensten Sprachgebieten sich stets neu bildendes Lallwort (z.
B. elam. atta, magy. atya `Vater', tu"rk. ata, bask. aita ds.)".

Dan Milton