Re: More water, poles, catch...

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:47:58 +0000, tgpedersen
> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> >Does that mean you've changed your mind on pre-pre-Basque since

1998:

> >
> >http://makeashorterlink.com/?D1DD225A8
> >
> >:
> >"2. *-p-, *-t-, *-k-, *-tz-, *-ts-, *-N-, *-L- derive from
> >geminates/consonant clusters." (perhaps I should have written

*patC-

> >or *paCt-)? You provide no rule for them in auslaut.
>
> In the Auslaut, only -tz, -ts, -N, -L (as well as -R and -r)
> occur, where they reflect the merger of -z/-tz, -s/-ts,
> -n/-nn, -l/ll.
>
> Basque <hatz> may come from *(h)as(s) or *(h)ass(V). If you
> want *pat-, the possibilities would be *pat-s(V) >
> *(h)ass(V) > hatz, or *pat-Vs > *(h)ats > *(h)ass > hatz.
>
> Cf. pre-Celtic *artos "bear" > Bq. hartz.
>

http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/pd.html

I suppose if one derived from a root with the alternate initial, /b/,
we'd get
*bat-sV- >
*bass(V)

which might be loaned (from some other Vasconic language) into
Western Romance as <bassV> "low (lying)"? The various troops in Roman
service must have felt the double meaning of <altus> "high"/"low" was
unpractical.

Torsten