Re: [tied] OCS "kriz^I"

If it helps, in most etymological dictionaries of Czech, CS kriz^I (Czech
kr^i:z^) is considered to be a loan from latin "crux" (ak. crucem) via:

1. ----North-It. "cruze" (comp. OG "kriuze", today Kreuz)---- [Struc^ny'
etymologicky' slovni'k jazyka c^eske'ho (A Brief Etymological Dictionary of
the Czech Language) by Josef Holub & Stanislav Lyer]
2. ----simply a north-It. dialectal form, and was accepted most probably in
the form of *kru:z^i in the western South-Slavonic dialects (Sln., Cr.),
then (after the SS merging of i, y > i) it spread via missionaries further
to the north. Slavs.---- [C^esky' etymologicky' slovni'k (Czech Etymological
Dictionary) by Jir^i' Rejzek]
3. Similarly in Va'clav Machek's Etymological Dictionary of the Czech
Language

Other languages: Polish krzyz, Croat kri^z^ = "Cross"

The Latin word meant "a curved caber", serving the crucifiction as a way of
execution. It is often considered to be akin to Czech krk (neck) and kr^ivy'
(crooked, bandy)...that is all I have found...

----- Original Message -----
From: "alex" <alxmoeller@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 7:19 PM
Subject: [tied] OCS "kriz^I"


> I could read about the etymology of the OCS "kriz^I" (cross) that the
> word should be a loan from OHG "chruzi".
> Pudic^ shows that there are heavy trouble in deriving the Slavic word
> from OHG word; Pudic^ means the word could be a loan from Balkanlatin
> and he argues with the friulian word "kros" which should derive from a
> VLat *kroge.
> From this form (*kroge) it should be easy to derive the OCS "kriz^I".
> Because Alb. has "q" (kryq) and Rom. & Dalmat points too to an "k"
> then the Balkanlatin should be considered as not being the word where
> from the OCS word derive. More, it is said, as sacral word, the word
> "kriz^I" is known in Slavic just in WestSlavic and partly by
> SouthSlavic.
> To me appears interesting the specification about the sacral and non
> sacral meaning of the word. So, I should ask if someone know, which
> are the actualy reflexes of OCS "kriz^I" in actualy Slavic languages
> and which are their profane meaning.
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> Alex
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