Re: [tied] Bader's article on *-os(y)o

From: enlil@...
Message: 32711
Date: 2004-05-18

Miguel:
> Nonsense. The locative is a weak case, with stress shifted
> one syllable to the right as compared to the nom. and acc.
> That is proof positive that it couldn't have been
> endingless, and that there was a desinential vowel here.
> This vowel also protected -n- from becoming -r. Loc.
> *udén(i) comes from *wad-án-a.

It's pretty in theory but it doesn't work as optimally as
the solution that *udén/*wedén is early Late IE at best, _after_
Syncope. In this way, we don't have to deal with an accent
with no motivation. At least in my theory with QAR, the
accent should be on the penultimate syllable much like your
form. However, it means that the accent wanders in _three_
positions (first syllable of stem, last syllable of stem
and the suffix!). It doesn't conform to the other automatic
declensional patterns and accentuation. The accent however
only makes sense in eLIE once the final vowels are gone
and only by analogical spread of the weak case prototype
*weden- to the locative which was endingless at the time,
producing *wedén.

In postSyncope eLIE, the rule is simple: put the accent on the
last syllable in all weak cases. So we have locative *wedén
(*udeni), genitive *wednás (*udnos) and partitive/ablative
*wednát which all contrast with the strong case with initial
accent: *wadr.

The accent is not clear if we push it back any further past
Syncope. Since I have better things to do with my time than
to remedy a sickly theory, I drop it and accept the eLIE
idea until there is reason to question it.


= gLeN