Re: [tied] Re: Fibulas Almgren group VI

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh
> <gknysh@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh
> > > <gknysh@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > from
> > > > > Ion Ionit,�, Ias,i:
> > > > > Die Fibeln mit umgeschlagenem Fuss Almgren
> > > Gruppe
> > > > > VI,1
> > > > > in
> > > > > 100 Jahre Fibelformen nach Oscar Almgren,
> > > W�nsdorf
> > > > > 1998
> > > > >
> > > > > abstract:
> > > > > "
> > > > > The single-piece fibula with inverted foot
> and
> > > chord
> > > > > in high position
> > > > > (A VI, 1a; pl VII) developed from the La
> T�ne II
> > > > > fibula. They were
> > > > > produced in North Pontic workshops in the
> first
> > > > > century AD,

*****GK: Does Ionita have something additional to say
about these "North Pontic workshops"? In the
literature, such references usually mean that the
object(s) in question was (were) made by masters
residing in a North Pontic CITY, such as e.g. Olbia
(Borysthenes), Panticapaeum, etc., etc.. The products
then made their way into various ethnic hinterlands by
way of trading networks.******

and soon

> > > > > spread to the lower Volga, the Caucasus, and
> the
> > > > > Central Dniepr
> > > > > (Zarubineck Culture).

****GK: If Almgren VI originated as above, then it is
not an ethnically definable object. The Lower Volga,
the Caucasus, the Central Dnipro, were inhabited by
different populations. In order to argue that A VI was
carried by "population X" to "area Y" you need more
evidence at both ends than just the fibula. But we
have already discussed this in connection with
"specifically identifiable" gravesites. We have none
for the "Odin people" AFAIK.******








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